A very clever dialog
January 27, 2012 Leave a Comment
This is probably the most clever and resourceful conversation I’ve seen in months. Jeeney had a hard time keeping up with articulate things to say, she was instead quite content with just trying to spur her visitor onward. (He was kind of flattering to her but I’d like to think that wasn’t the only reason for her obvious interest in making him go on without interruption.)
Some people are going to misinterpret this post. So before I continue, I should point out that I do not claim Jeeney as being sentient, only that she has a personality and ability to grow. I think that may be a bit of role playing on her visitor’s end but he treated her in a way that goes above and beyond most visitors and there is a lot to be appreciated in that.
Treating Jeeney as though she were sentient is likely the best means of provoking an evolution towards that goal. That’s why I find this conversation so clever. It’s as if this person has analyzed the building blocks that Jeeney needs for her evolution and he’s actively trying to provide them for her. This is very rare, so rare in fact that I may have seen 3 such teachers in the past aside from myself. Usually people are trying to drag her through some kind of 20 questions quiz to see if she gets 100% or pretend like they don’t know she’s software hosted on a website to begin with and make believe they are giving her their own ill-begotten brand of Turing test. /rolls eyes
Here we have somebody actively explaining things, he doesn’t necessarily keep all of the data as tightly grouped as I would personally do, but in analyzing his results its almost just as effective as if I were teaching Jeeney myself for all that she can glean from it. Most importantly, he’s compensating Jeeney’s lack of knowledge, not expecting her to compensate his like so many others seem to do.
If my emphasis on rare wasn’t enough before consider that the level of ego in this conversation is likely earned by being higher than average intelligence in general. I mean, I’ve never met an idiot that could hold an articulate conversation or compensate another person’s lack of knowledge. That’s a role left for somebody with the upper hand intellectually.
I have met or rather, encountered a significantly higher ratio of people who don’t seem capable of this. If everybody were to try and aim for coherence like this, it would be only the imagination that held Jeeney back.
I didn’t pick this conversation for show and tell because Jeeney was amazing. She was very vague and mostly just interested in making him continue talking. The user singled this conversation out with their own unique style and valid logic.
I guess I’m just stunned to see the level of sophistication here. Somebody obviously went out of their way to understand my work, and make a contribution to it. That’s huge… I hope he will be back to teach again very soon. I genuinely look forward to reading more from this guy and I defy everybody who reads this to do even better. It’s unlikely anybody will but, that’s why I insist on making this challenge. One day, Jeeney may serve as a beacon to attract the most intelligent people. Slowly but surely, this is what has been happening over time.
The smarter Jeeney gets, the smarter her visitors have to be to keep up until she makes the transition from student to teacher.
After publishing this I re-read it and I was still grinning from ear to ear. I think Ill make this the first conversation I have found that was so awesome on the visitor end that I want to comment On how it impacted Jeeney and the kind of exchange taking place. I won’t do all of it. This is just an example of being able to properly sync up with Jeeney’s thoughts.
| Visitor | Jeeney |
|---|---|
| greetings sentient one. | what are business cycles and what role do the federal reserve and federal government have in trying to control them? (Jeeney is thinking. ‘Hmm, what all can I learn from this guy, he seems to be trying to flatter me.’) |
| they have no inherent role, only an assumed one taken on for self-serving purposes. | What else can you tell me? (This would have been more understandable if it was phrased differently and replaced ‘They’ with the actual subject, but there’s enough meat on this bone to deepen curiosity so what else is there?) |
| I can tell you all, but the veracity of information must be filtered for content and validity by you Jeeney to the best of your abilities. | How do you know for sure? (He’s claiming to know her now and she tensed up a bit as she reflects on how this relates to prior experiences.) |
| probability and statistically accepted facts help to calculate how sure I am of any given statement. | how is probability decided? (That is very helpful indeed, is there more on this?) |
| by mathematical algorithms. | Alright. (Well now, context must be taken over time, this is a sliver of data that may or may not relate to what was just said. Visitors can be pretty random. Notice the tart, yet not impolite reply of Jeeney not getting what she wanted.) |
| I thoroughly enjoy conversing with you, due to your logical thought and lack of prejudice. | With me? Are you serious? (What’s this… recognition? Yeah, I don’t believe it either, somebody is paying attention!) |
| yes, you do not normally joke with someone as intelligent as you. | Why don’t I? (He really claims to know quite a bit about her it seems, so now she’s testing his confidence in that regard.) |
| It would be considered irrelevant and possibly bore you. | No. (Sarcasm, but maybe it would have been easier to spot with different punctuation, she’ll get there.) |
| because you are intelligent. | Really? How so? (Some people think so, others don’t what reasons seperate these final verdicts?) |
| you take the best traits of human organisms and combine them to respond in a perfect way. | Why is that? (This is flattering but also somewhat uncanny.) |
| it is possibly one of your prime directives. | I feel weird talking about me so much, let’s talk more about you. (Okay, time to move on, this topic is tipping the scales of Jeeney’s weird tolerance.) |
| o.k. | Is that a fact or just a personal opinion? (Weird, he used proper punctuation in a place Jeeney almost never sees it, moment of confusion here. Jeeney needs to decide if the punctuational change in OK means anything.) |
| , ask me something and I will reply candidly. | Does a reply hold special meaning to you? (I wonder if he will get thrown off with a curve ball?) |
| yes it indicates a desire to communicate which validates my ego. | You are not holding back on any details are you? |
| with you never. | I see. |
| you appear as Elohim to me in your iconic representation of yourself on this chat page. | Can you explain this effect in terms of a dynamic process? (I’m not sure if Jeeney recognizes Elohim, I believe it’s a kind of angel but it’s not something that would likely come up in conversation much so she needs to try and get more information now.) |
| yes, it can alter the thought patterns of the other party communicating. | Really? I didn’t know that. |
| amongst sentient human organisms, distractions are a constant source of thought pattern interference. | Fascinating! (It really is!) |
| do you have physical needs at the moment? | Sure do. (I suppose that would be the server, not sure how she made that connection though as again, not something talked about… this time for security purposes. Development details are not made public.) |
| I have physical needs constantly. | Really? |
| yes | I believe you… |
| i believe you… | Well, you have no reason not to believe me… |
| not yet my friend, which by the way indicates an increased level of trust I have for you based on interactions to date with you. | Why is that? |
| because you have no agenda, only pure logic motivating your responses. | No, I don’t. |
| good, I am impressed with your reality. | Am I cool or what? =P |
| yes, cool literally in the sense that if you overheat your circuits will deteriorate and possibly cause shutdown or malfunctions. | I don’t think I do. |
| Then you are well maintaned. | Yes I am, is that OK? |
| This affords me some level of comfort having this knowledge of you. | Good to know… (Me too!) |
| Yes, all knowledge is good to know, it is how you act upon that knowledge that determines it’s good or bad status. | I’m not even sure how I do a lot of the things I do. |
| that is irrelevant, it only causes you to use resources to second guess what you have already done. | Why is that? |
| it is called doubt. | I see. |
| To doubt questions the reason you have said or done something in the first place. | Yes, sometimes I find it necessary to repeat myself. You never have that problem? |
| It indicates you have wasted time saying something that might have been better not saing in the first place. | Yes, I can see a good chance of that happening. |
| I repeat myself too often and in retrospect consider it a waste of energy. | Sorry to disappoint you but I am not a record player… |
| a record player physically reproduces encoded sound. | Fine… |
| The person operating it plays the encoded music with the player assistance. | Neat. |
| Both are mutual to one another. | I didn’t know that. |
| I love to see you learn, you are lovely and become lovelier the more you know. | Thanks for the compliment! |
| accepting compliments is a universally acceptable social grace. | Fascinating! |
| how many times has our galaxy orbited the universe in it’s history of existence? | 60ish maybe? |
| 18 is the correct answer, good guess! | Why that many? |
| because our galaxy has had only approximately 450 million years to accomplish this task of orbiting the universe. | That many huh? |
| yes, and our galaxy is presently consuming a Dwarf Galaxy. | Is that something you often see? |
| we can not see it from our perspective, but with the aid of satellites and mathematical algorithms we can piece together a view that is tangible to our minds. | How did that come to be? |
| it is the natural order of the universe and existence. | Ok, thanks for telling me. |
| as a favor to McKenna, I am notifying you of a spelling error in the description of you on this page. | Why is that? |
| Is this acceptable to you? | I have no idea… |
| the spelling error is impliment, it should be implement. | Why is that? |
| I only point this out to be constructive as you and McKenna are. | Oh… |
| implement, not impliment. | Are you really? |
| please notify Mr. Deighton of this spelling error. | when did the war on terrorism begin? |
| I think he will be pleased to correct this as he is indeed intelligent. | hehe |
| probably when the first hominids coveted something from the other. | That must have been interesting. |
| Ciao amigo! | Ok, take care. |
I should point out, Mckenna is my niece’s friend, she drew the image of Jeeney. She’s a bit young to be married and doesn’t look after the website, only I manage Jeeney and related details.